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We have a beautiful tree canopy on Upper State Street but unfortunately it makes the busy restaurant corridor very dark at night.
It would be really excellent to have a low level street lighting like other commercial districts in the City.
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Ken (Guest)
Sebouh Asadourian (Guest)
This issue should directed to Parks Trees Division. Parks need to send somebody to trim the trees for more lighting. The lighting level is where it should.
Regards!
Ben Berkowitz (Guest)
Thanks Sebouh,
I don't believe that the trees could be trimmed out of the way of the lights at this point. The trees canopy is lower than the lights.
Regardless, low level street lighting is more human scale and aesthetically pleasing for a commercial corridor. I think this is a question of both safety and beautification.
The Upper State Street Association Looked into paying UI to run the light the night poles like in East Haven, but it does not seem economically sensible to rent this much equipment.
Susan Frew (Guest)
Todd (Guest)
Alison (Guest)
Brian Virtue (Guest)
It would be a huge enhancement to the neighborhood.
Sebouh Asadourian (Guest)
Funding to add pedestrian lighting is not available right now. This issue can be brought up at higher level for consideration.
Regards!
Brian Virtue (Guest)
You sound as if you are an authority on this matter, are you an official of the city with knowledge of available funding, or are you just trying to condemn the idea because you don't like it? If it is the latter; it appears you are out numbered.
It will be brought up at a "higher level", thanks for the idea.
Alison (Guest)
Sebouh Asadourian (Guest)
All I am is street lighting administrator and I have a budget to work with to maintain and repair street lights and to make sure that the lighting level meet Illumination Engineers Society's standards. Any additional lighting increase request has to come to from higher up and funding goes with it.
Regards!
Ben (Guest)
Thanks Sebouh,
Keep up the good work!
Appreciate your quick response and explanation of the current budget situation for your department.
The good news is that if we get low level street lighting your guys wont have to go as high to replace bulbs ;-)
joey (Guest)
After all streetlights are for illuminating the street.
Landlords are the ones that can install these types of lights and actually turn on the ones that are attached to their buildings.Property owners should have some sort of lighting for the safety of their tenants and passersby.
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Lucille S. Lupinski (Guest)
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joey (Guest)
( i don't want to be too long on a diff. thread,god forbid)
Anytime a good rain and a breeze comes along a rotten branch comes down. Mostly all of the branches are no where near pedestrians overhead.
They cut what was left in St.Joes lot down , they would fall for no reason , sometimes over the sidewalk which was a dangerous and litigation ladeled.
Nothing scraping ones' face. A lite trimming on some would be benificial but only complete removal would shed the kind of light good Mrs. ? above is looking for. And she's right about it being pretty dark - not long for all the leaves to fall and ,well with the moon full on Nov 3'rd we shall have glorious moonlight. I have seen a light on at one home , a porch light and a motion sensor that really helped cut the gloom.
The homes around Culpertwaits occasionally have porch lights on and as there are no trees in front of those homes it is plenty - but the issue of whose UI is covering those lights is what perpetuates the permanent shutting off of the porch lights etc.
j (Guest)
David Streever (Registered User)
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Michael Tucker (Guest)
Bob (Guest)
LCI Citywide Helper (Verified Official)
Re: The low level lights on Hillhouse Avenue looks fabulous ! They've been in place for a while now but what a job over there, and it's not even a commercial strip. Way to go
You can thank Yale for those light...that was NOT done by the City of New Haven!
BB (Registered User)
What would the time line be on this project?
Anonymous (Guest)
Timeline for what project Ben?
In West Philadelphia, UPenn and the utility company match 70% of the cost of pedestrian level lighting and it has had a huge impact on that entire area, which is similar to central New Haven in size.
From a dollar per dollar cost benefit though, I think improved traffic calming would do more than lighting here. Both would be great .... but how about starting by making it more comfortable for pedestrians to cross the street at absolutely ridiculous intersections such as East/State and Humphrey/State.
A lighting project like the one being discussed here would be extremely expensive....
Ben (Guest)
Thanks
Anonymous (Guest)
300000 that the city does not currently have -- though lighting is certainly one of the best forms of traffic calming.
Speeds are fine on State Street from Humphrey to Edwards, but from Edwards on out (and from Clark or so down into Downtown), they are still way too high especially during off-peak hours.
Lighting would help bring those down, in addition to what less expensive measures could do. My concern besides the speed is the distance that pedestrians have to cross at Humphrey/State and East/State.
Yes, there are already issues open on the intersection problems, but this page is a problem-solving forum for discussing neighborhood priorities and it is good to keep costs in perspective vis a vis other potential interventions.
BB (Registered User)
The problem with bringing the traffic calming issue to this issue is that it totally killed the thread.
I would report lowering speeds on State Street as a separate issue.
I want to encourage people to speak up if they want better lighting on Upper State Street.
This is one of the banners that we will be hanging on the new traffic poles designed by local artist Teaessare.
If there were low level light poles we could hang banners like these all the way down the street.
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
A citywide campaign is being established to advocate for low level and pedestrian-scale lighting. Lighting, economic development and personal safety is clearly an issue throughout New Haven, both along retail strips and elsewhere.
Many successful models of community coalitions can be found in other cities.
Please continue to speak up about lighting on State Street (and elsewhere) and encourage your neighbors to post on this website. Additional details will be posted here in the coming weeks; approximately 5-10 volunteers who can dedicate 2-3 hours per week towards research and advocacy will be needed in order to make the campaign a success.
BB (Registered User)
Hey Mark,
Any progress on the campaign?
Chrissy, have you made any progress on this on your end by chance?
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Hey Ben,
Still setting that up but will be in touch.
I went across Court Street late at night the other day, the new lighting was definitely a plus.
Mark
BB (Registered User)
I had talked to Chrissy Bonano about this a while ago but have gotten very busy and have not been able to work on this.
Is there someone that wants to help lead this charge in talking with the City?
Chrissy Bonanno (Registered User)
Hi all--
Pedestrian level lighting has been a request the City has received from a number of neighborhood commercial corridors including Upper State, Grand Avenue, Westville Village and Whalley Avenue. As noted earlier in the chain, lighting falls under the Engineering Department which reports to CAO. However, considering the importance of this issue to the success of neighborhood businesses, Economic Development is committed to working on finding a solution but we need your help. After speaking with Michael Piscitelli in Transportation, we would like to convene a small group to work with the City to find cost effective solutions that meet the safety and aesthetic goals of the community. If you are interested in, please email me at cbonanno@newhavenct.net.
Thanks,
Chrissy Bonanno
Deputy Economic Development Administrator
BB (Registered User)
Thank You Chrissy,
We would love to get a small group together to work with the city on this.
Anyone else interested please cc me ben@seeclickfix.com on the email as well.
BB (Registered User)
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
What is the status of the working group on pedestrian level lighting? Count me in as well!
By the way, the new pedestrian level lighting on Prospect Street, between Grove and Trumbull looks excellent. Can't wait to see it in operation.
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juli (Registered User)
BB (Registered User)
The group never formed and I admit lack of time to organize this right now. If there is federal funding for these types of project say we go for it otherwise probably not the year to poke the city.
I also have been looking at Whalley and thinking they really need lights before us.
I say we keep the issue open and see If we can push for federal funding for transpo improvements .
Anthony P Urbano (Registered User)
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http://www.solarlightingusa.com
http://www.solarlightingusa.com/metro-series.html
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Ben (Guest)
Thanks for the research. Maybe the office of sustainability could help. How much would this cost in your estimate and would there be any need for wires?
Anthony P Urbano (Registered User)
Ben (Guest)
Anthony P Urbano (Registered User)
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Hi Anthony, any word on the quotes for these lights?
I agree that pedestrian lighting is really important to creating a healthier and more efficient city. There are a number of other posts about pedestrian-scaled lighting in New Haven on SeeClickFix, and also requests have been made by neighborhoods and business districts all across the city.
Please contact newhavensafestreets at gmail.com if you'd like to volunteer to work on a citywide campaign to coordinate these efforts.
This wouldn't replace local organizing, like around this issue here on State Street, but would be a way to take the first step of getting people who are currently in different neighborhoods to talk with one another and share best practices around lighting.
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
BB (Registered User)
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Закрыта Department of Transportation, Traffic and Parking (Registered User)
Reopened BB (Registered User)
Hi Guys,
There are over 50 people's emails attached to this issue for updates so I'm going to reopen as creating a new one would take a lot of work to keep all of those folks in the loop.
Thanks,
Ben
BB (Registered User)
Susan Frew (Registered User)
City of New Haven (Verified Official)
BB (Registered User)
Bob Frew (Registered User)
Закрыта Department of Transportation, Traffic and Parking (Registered User)
We are delineating Street Lamp issues that are current and need the city's attention to resolve. Any issues prior to Dec 31, 2015 are being closed. If your Street Lamp issue still needs to be addressed, please create a new issue by selecting the Street Lamp service request in SeeClickFix. Providing a pole number and/or a more precise location is important. Once your issue is submitted, the Transportation, Traffic and Parking Department will acknowledge the issue and create a maintenance/repair work order.
Read this NHI article for additional information: http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/city_street_lighting_/
Thank you.